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  • Ep456: Rewiring Love: How Thais Gibson Is Teaching Millions to Heal at the Subconscious Level

    Ep456: Rewiring Love: How Thais Gibson Is Teaching Millions to Heal at the Subconscious Level

     

    For years, Thais Gibson believed that relationships were supposed to hurt.

    Raised in an emotionally volatile environment, she learned early that love came with conflict, unpredictability, and intensity. Calm felt foreign. Stability felt suspicious. And intimacy? Often overwhelming.

    “I actually remember worrying when things weren’t dramatic,” she shares on the Unconventional Life podcast with host Jules Schroeder. “If we weren’t fighting, I thought something was wrong.”

    That belief—deeply embedded, entirely subconscious—would quietly shape her relationships, emotional coping mechanisms, and sense of self for years.

    Until everything unraveled.

    When Willpower Isn’t Enough

    Like many people on a healing journey, Thais tried to think her way out of pain. She read the books. Set intentions. Promised herself she would do better next time.

    But the patterns kept repeating.

    The breakthrough came when she learned a truth most people never hear: the conscious mind controls only a fraction of behavior. The subconscious—the part responsible for emotional reactions, habits, and attachment patterns—runs nearly everything.

    “You can’t outwill the subconscious,” she explains. “You have to reprogram it.”

    That realization changed the course of her life.

    The Science of Emotional Conditioning

    Through years of study in psychology, neuroscience, and somatic healing, Thais discovered why people remain stuck even when they want to change.

    The subconscious is wired through repetition and emotional intensity. It doesn’t respond to logic or affirmations—it responds to imagery, feeling, and consistency.

    What feels familiar—even if painful—feels safe.

    This insight became the foundation of Integrated Attachment Theory™, Thais’ proprietary framework that bridges attachment theory with subconscious reprogramming and nervous system regulation.

    Healing Attachment from the Inside Out

    Attachment styles, Thais explains, are not personality traits. They’re subconscious survival strategies learned in childhood.

    Fearful-avoidant, anxious, and dismissive attachment patterns all stem from core beliefs about safety, love, and self-worth.

    By targeting those beliefs directly—rather than behavior alone—lasting change becomes possible.

    And it works.

    A Live Demonstration of Rewiring Belief

    During the episode, Thais walks Jules through a real-time belief reprogramming exercise, revealing just how accessible the process can be.

    The steps are deceptively simple:

    1. Identify the fear beneath a goal

    2. Name the belief attached to it

    3. Create emotional evidence for the opposite belief

    4. Repeat consistently over 21 days

    It’s not about motivation. It’s about neural pathways.

    From Library Workshops to a Global School

    At 21, Thais began teaching free workshops in library rooms. People kept asking to work with her privately. Her waitlist grew to two years.

    That demand led to the creation of The Personal Development School, now serving members in over 115 countries with more than 60 courses dedicated to subconscious healing.

    It’s not therapy. It’s education for the inner world.

    The Real Transformation

    Success aside, the most profound shift for Thais was internal.

    “I used to be incredibly harsh with myself,” she admits. “My mind was always loud.”

    Today, she describes a sense of peace she once thought was impossible—space to create, to love, and to live without constant inner conflict.

    Healing didn’t just change her relationships.

    It gave her her life back.

    Giveaway

    One listener will receive a one-year all-access membership to The Personal Development School.

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  • Ep286: Growth Through Connections with Women’s Business League founders Melissa Gilbo and Amy Pocsik

    Ep286: Growth Through Connections with Women’s Business League founders Melissa Gilbo and Amy Pocsik

    As the saying goes, “if you want to go fast, go alone, but if you want to go far, bring company.” This couldn’t be truer for the dynamic duo, Melissa Gilbo and Amy Pocsik, founders of the Women’s Business League.

    They could have lived a good life with their stable careers in finance and loving families to support them, but a fateful encounter at a local pizza shop in Georgetown, Massachusetts led them to abandon their six-figure state of mind to pursue the unconventional life that they live today.

    Building around trust, they made a community that was aimed at encouraging and empowering women to be the big shots that they were meant to be; providing a network of support, business connections, and the educational tools for success.

    “We decided to really build the table that we wanted to sit around,” Amy described, “total powerhouse women who were up to big things and making a big impact.”

    Amy and Melissa believe that relationships shape the business and not the other way around. Putting fellowship first, building on their connections, and putting the work boots down, is the key to the success of their community.

    “If you focus on generating value for others, it’s going to come back to you and your business 10-fold,” Amy said.

    Melissa added that “The commonality in what women are looking for is that authentic community and those real relationships.”

    Now, with an expanding network of members and a power-house team, the Women’s Business League isn’t just a legacy by the duo, but as Melissa puts it, they have made a message to anyone and everyone who has a dream and the drive, that we are better together.

    “The heart of Women’s Business League and the focus of these chapters is all about connection and relationship building.”

     

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  • Ep272: Leadership Beyond the Calendar with Volley Founder Josh Little

    Ep272: Leadership Beyond the Calendar with Volley Founder Josh Little

    With most of us still in lockdown and our offices empty due to the remote work set-up, leading a team and managing tasks has become a different type of exhausting. Serial entrepreneur and Volley CEO, Josh Little, refers to this as “Meeting Fatigue.”

    As the tech boss points out, there is no substitute for the human connection of being in the same place with your co-workers. Being in a group huddle or any project meeting has become this tiring task of listening to words rather than a sharing of ideas, and connecting. Little sees this as an obstacle to productivity and good leadership, but how can we get around this inescapable part of remote work?

    Josh says that we need these online conversations due to the current circumstances and leadership itself that needs to change.

    “The answer is not in talking less, but in talking differently.”

    With his fourth company Volley, they hope to create asynchronous conversations, similar to texting. As the name suggests, people will take turns in conversation, unlike in zoom where words are being thrown real-time while everyone else is on mute, Josh notes that this non-real time meeting provides a different environment and leadership.

    “This will let me take time to think about my response,” Josh explains “and allow me to skip back to what you said 2 or 3 times to really [understand] what you were trying to get across.”

    “By breaking the turns, it will also allow to be more inclusive and ultimately free-up your calendar,” Josh emphasizes,“and living beyond the calendar is what an asynchronous conversation can enable.”

    Having experience in different fields of business—including pickles—Josh notes that today’s environment requires “continuous leadership” where you can check in on demand.

    “The lightning-strike-eureka moment doesn’t happen when the calendar says it should,” he stresses, and that in this time when teammates are so distant from one another, is when leaders need to be exceptionally flexible.

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  • Ep268: Creating a New Identity, with Holistic Nutritionist and Hypnotherapist Melissa Kathryn

    Ep268: Creating a New Identity, with Holistic Nutritionist and Hypnotherapist Melissa Kathryn

    We know ourselves more than anyone, and often we need to be reminded to take our time to listen to our own thoughts. In our talk with Certified Nutritionist and Hypnotherapist Melissa Kathryn, she takes us for a quick meditation session and guides us to “let the answers in” as our conscious thoughts step back and we ask our bodies about how to solve our fears.

    Melissa shares with us the MK method which she has been following and teaching people in order to change their lives, whether it be an issue with weight, diet, or general emotional and trauma healing. She describes it as a holistic approach that really strikes a problem to its core.

    “MK method is about creating a new identity and understanding what your gaps are,” Melissa said, “something that I teach is where there’s lack, you’ll fill the gaps with x. [For example] where there is lack, you’ll fill the gaps with food. So, wherever we experience lack within ourselves, and within our thinking and within our being, knowing that we’re not enough now, we will end up filling those gaps with whatever it is.”

    For Melissa, change isn’t simply about education and health, it’s also about empowerment; she points out that our actions are dictated by our minds and these decisions affect our body and how we live our lives. Sharing her own story, Melissa notes that even as a nutritionist she still bounces back to unhealthy routines.

    “I got the weight back at the same length of time I took to get it off,” she says “so clearly something’s missing. And I was just on the floor of my New York City apartment, binging on Quest Bars, felt sick to my stomach. I was like why would I do this to myself? This clearly [shows] I don’t love myself because I’m putting myself in pain and I’m not living my best life.

    “I started really looking at my mind and started realizing that all of this had nothing to do with food but my relationship to myself and my mindset.”

    She shares that the beauty of her work is when she gets to empower women through her coaching and her story of surviving cancer but she notes that people also need to realize that they can look within to find their own answers and be their own inspiration.

    “You don’t need an astrological reading to tell you that your desires on your heart are meant for you,” she stresses, “you got to give yourself permission to live your best life now.”

     

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  • Ep267: Having Contagious Self-Love, with Life Coach and Author Carla Romo

    Ep267: Having Contagious Self-Love, with Life Coach and Author Carla Romo

    The topic of love is probably a subject that speaks to everyone. Whether it be a Valentine’s Day gift retailer, or TV and movie plots, love is something all of us have or want to experience; it changes us and makes us do the dumbest things, and sometimes we look for it so much that we lose ourselves in the process.

    For certified life coach and Contagious Love author Carla Romo, the field of Love isn’t as pretty as Hollywood makes it and often it requires a lot of self-work. To find it, one needs to not only “get over” emotional scars but also be empowered in loving themselves.

    Learning from experience, she now empowers lots of hopeful romantics to put themselves first and not go down this path of self-sabotage in hopes of being loved. Carla shares with us three tips that we can use to start loving ourselves more and not settle for toxic relationships.

     

    Know the story you’re telling yourself.

    Carla advises that one should give themselves a moment of quiet and “Listen to your damn gut.”

    It’s in this crucial silent space that one tends to feel lonely but this is also an opportunity to ask yourself how you really feel and what are the fears underneath that thought.

    She encourages the use of positive vocal affirmations either in front of a mirror or random sticky notes around our homes that remind us to say positive “I am” statements.

    “Practicing these little interruptions through our everyday hamster wheel spins can start to get you into a place of self-love,” Carla stresses, “and fair warning, it might feel really cheesy at first but psychologists have proven through studies that the more you practice affirmations, your brain rewires and starts to believe them.”

     

    Create Space for your feelings.

    It’s not easy balancing work and your personal life, especially now with the pandemic forcing us to stay indoors and work from home, but Carla encourages us to “feel our feelings” and not distract ourselves from the emotional pain. She says to clearly define our intentions and not deny ourselves that space to grieve.

    “What kind of screws people over, is when you don’t allow that space, so actually, you bring those feelings with you to your next relationship,” she says, “if you don’t allow yourself to process that, you still have a ball of yarn tangled up inside of you that is trying to tease itself in the next relationship.”

    She advises that one should at least give themselves 3 or 4 months to go through all the stages of grieving before attempting love.

     

    Don’t paint Red Flags green.

    Often, we know the traits in a partner we are looking for, but it’s our personal feelings that cloud our judgments, this is what Romo referred to as self-sabotage—choosing someone out of insecurity and our desperation for love.

    Carla encourages us to listen to that guiding voice and not ignore the signs of a toxic relationship.

    “It was so easy to do before in the past,” Carla shares, “but the reason that I didn’t paint them green [now] is because I’m okay with myself. I didn’t need that validation; I didn’t need to force a relationship because I felt okay just being single.”

    Romo told that a codependent toxic relationship from childhood led her down a path of self-sabotage that she hadn’t realized until she was 24. It was during a stressful time in her life that she decided to travel to Ireland on her own to find some peace, and it was in the quiet that she came to understand something.

    “I saw two paths in front of me,” Romo said, “and I knew that I’d be okay no matter what I chose, but the two paths were: One, continue self-sabotage continue to be with this type of person—even if you broke up with them and just keep going and not doing that inner work, or two, break-up with that person, do that inner work, love myself, learn how to communicate what my needs are, and heal.

    “So, I got back to Los Angeles and I ended that relationship because I realized the most important relationship I had was with myself.”

     

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